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   01/04/2004, 4:34 PM
michael starckey is not online. Last active: 05/11/2008 12:44:57 michael starckey

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Coverting to microlight
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Hi,
Does anyone know how much money and how many hours it would take to convert from a PPL(a) to microlight? Also how much does it cost to own/run a flex wing microlight?
Thanks in advance.
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   20/05/2005, 8:27 PM
Paul Woodward is not online. Last active: 15/11/2005 14:54:00 Paul Woodward

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RE: Coverting to microlight
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Hi ya PPL (M) is a minimum of 30 hours from memory, dont know how much PPL (A) will count.  Are you thinking about Flexwings or Fixed wing?  training can be as low as £70.00/Hour.

you can pick up a used low cost 2 seater Pegasus Xl flexwing for around £2500 a Quanntum 582 like mine faster, larger better cruising machine still 2 stroke around £8000 a four Stroke 912 Engined similar machine £14000 Fixed wings or the older variety around £5000 the more modern high performance types go around at anything up to £40000 my 582 returns around 12ltrs/hour solo 16 ltrs /hour dual.  Insurance approx £700/annum with the new passenger cover Hangerage £600/year.

Fun to fly great people, very sociable clubs if you want to follow up a little more let me know I will try to help if I can, please feel free to e-mail or contact me, you will be very welcome to join our little band


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   30/05/2005, 8:39 AM
tandch is not online. Last active: 15/11/2005 15:06:01 tandch

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RE: Coverting to microlight
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There are two ways.

Having done something similar myself....

If you intend to keep your PPL A then all you need is type converstion and sign off

and again there is a big difference between 3 axis and flexwings.

Flexwing convertion will take a lot longer due to the complete different way of control. 

Note hours on microlights don,t count for your PPL A....and you will have to keep your

PPL A current.

Now

If you intend to get a microlight NPPL you need the same type converstion except you

now need to take a skills test. and pay the CAA some cash.

rgds trevor   

 

 


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   01/07/2005, 7:46 PM
Scotlands Top Aviator is not online. Last active: 11/11/2005 15:53:39 Scotlands Top Aviator

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RE: Coverting to microlight
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Is it not the case that if you have a Group 'A' licence you can legally fly any Microlight without any training or conversion? It would be rather silly to try and fly a Flex-Wing Microlight without Conversion training though. The 3 Axis Microlight variants are in reality no different to the more 'complicated' Group 'A' aeroplanes and are hardly going to catch out most competent pilots. The idea of flying a Wobbly wing without training really scares me, but I suppose if anyone is to do it without further training they should remember these points:

Bar Forward = Houses Smaller

Bar Backwards = Houses Bigger

Bar Left = Turn Right

Bar Right = Turn Left

And Best Point is: Flex wings do not have a Rudder, so you cannot boot off 'Drift'  

 

 


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   09/10/2005, 7:23 PM
Shane Johnson is not online. Last active: 15/11/2005 14:59:56 Shane Johnson

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RE: Coverting to microlight
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I was on the BMAA site today reading about this.

According to that site, you need to do a quick conversion course of around 5 hours and then apply to the CAA for a rating to be added to your PPL(A) for that type.

You dont need a sepearte licence for the type although bear in mind there are 2 types of microlite so extra lessons may be needed if you intend to fly flexi as well as fixed wing.
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   23/01/2006, 10:21 PM
Chris is not online. Last active: 23/01/2006 22:12:35 Chris

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Re: Coverting to microlight
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If you've already got a PPL(A) then you can simply send off for an NPPL.  You'll get the licence no probs, costs about £130 quid odd.  I'd advise some differences training before actually flying though, as it can be a shock ... believe me I've been there.
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   01/11/2006, 11:27 PM
lee is not online. Last active: 01/11/2006 23:31:44 lee

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Re: RE: Coverting to microlight
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Hi, im only just begining, my first lesson is in two weeks and I was wondering should I buy my own microlight to be trained in or would it be better to use one that they provide ? 

Also, would a used low cost 2 seater pegasus flexwing be a good starter for me and being old and used would it be as safe?

Any other hints or tips for a first timer would be very helpful. Thanks Lee 


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   04/12/2006, 6:46 PM
nickjaxe is not online. Last active: 04/07/2007 16:36:00 nickjaxe

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Re: RE: Coverting to microlight
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Hi lee I got my licence about a year ago, I to was thinking of a cheap pegasus £2000ish and was told if its an XL type you will find the days on which can use it are limited and they are very slow, the pegasus quantam on the other hand is a very nice machine, I got myself a nice mainair flash 2a you can pick them up for £3500-£4500 my instructor told me not to go for less the this type to start with, I would use the schools aircraft to get you started if not for your full course, I started using my own part way though my lessons and found it slowed me down, all my attention going into gettting the aircraft ready to fly, as for being old should not matter as regards to its safety as the aircraft has to have a very tough permit test every year, if you go to buy one take sombody with you that knows there stuff or do your home work dont get anything without a long permit, give me a shout if I can help any more.

 

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   08/01/2007, 7:14 PM
Cookie is not online. Last active: 08/01/2007 18:45:18 Cookie

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Re: RE: Coverting to microlight
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The truth is somewhere between the posts above.

If you can produce logbook evidence of having flown a microlight before JAR, then the CAA will kindly issue you with the licence due to grandfather rights (for a small fee, of course).

However, post 2000, you require an NPPL(M) which you attain as follows:

SECTION 4. CROSS-CREDITING LICENCES AND RATINGS TO NPPL (MICROLIGHT)
4.1 Pilots with valid licences and ratings
NPPL (SEP), UK PPL (A) or JAR-FCL PPL (A) to NPPL (Microlight)

The holder of a NPPL (SEP), UK PPL (A) or JAR-FCL PPL(A) with SEP class rating who wishes to obtain a
NPPL (Microlight) shall:

a. Produce the NPPL (SEP), UK PPL (A) or JAR-FCL PPL (A);
b. Pass the Microlight Aeroplanes Type (Part 2) oral examination conducted by a Microlight flight
examiner. The examination shall include pilot maintenance requirements and conditions of the Permit
to Fly;
c. Hold a valid NPPL Medical Declaration or JAR-FCL Class 1 or 2 medical certificate;
d. Pass the NPPL (Microlight) GST.

Taken from the NPPL website : http://www.nppl.uk.com

Hope this helps,

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